Legislature(2005 - 2006)SENATE FINANCE 532

04/04/2005 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE


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+= SB 141 PUBLIC EMPLOYEE/TEACHER RETIREMENT TELECONFERENCED
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Moved CSSB 93(FIN) Out of Committee
*+ SB 155 APPROP: SCHOOLS/UNIV/VIROLOGY LAB/MUSEUM TELECONFERENCED
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+ SB 112 TAX ON REAA RESIDENTS TELECONFERENCED
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10:32:09 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 112(CRA)                                                                                            
     "An Act imposing a tax on residents of regional educational                                                                
     attendance areas and relating to permanent fund dividend                                                                   
     applications; and providing for an effective date."                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This  was the first  hearing  for this  bill in  the Senate  Finance                                                            
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  presented this bill saying it relates  to discussions                                                            
on the previous bill. The  Committee has heard testimony that school                                                            
districts   need  more  money.  This   legislation  would   generate                                                            
approximately  $13 million. The intent  is that this money  would be                                                            
used for education  purposes as "new  funding" rather than  supplant                                                            
existing funding.  Residents of cities  and communities governed  by                                                            
home rule  contribute  some money  for operation  of the schools  in                                                            
their  communities.   This  is  an   "important  expression"   of  a                                                            
community's   investment  in   their  schools   both  fiscally   and                                                            
psychologically.  Residents  who  have  a local  investment  take  a                                                            
greater  interest in protecting  that investment.  This legislation                                                             
would generate  additional revenue  as well as local responsibility                                                             
for schools.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:34:47 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  relayed an incident  told by a school superintendent                                                             
in the  Bristol Bay  region. School  supplies would  be received  in                                                            
small  communities and  left unprotected  from  the weather  without                                                            
concern by local residents.  Once those residents began contributing                                                            
financially  to  the  operation   of  the  small  schools  in  their                                                            
communities,  the supplies  were  better cared  for. This  is not  a                                                            
reflection  solely on rural  residents, but  rather of human  nature                                                            
regardless of location.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:36:46 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green noted a proposed committee substitute.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  moved for  adoption of CS SB  112, 24-LS0505\L,  as a                                                            
working document.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green objected for an explanation.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:38:02 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde outlined  the committee substitute. Language beginning                                                            
on page  1, line  12 provides that  individuals  aged 21 through  65                                                            
would be liable  for the tax. This mirrors the requirements  of many                                                            
organized communities.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:38:36 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde noted  language  beginning on  page 2,  line 8  lists                                                            
exemptions  for those whose income  is less below the poverty  line,                                                            
disabled  veterans, and  those owning  real property,  but also  pay                                                            
property tax in another Alaskan jurisdiction.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  deemed this legislation a "fairness  bill" that would                                                            
"allow"  contribution  by  those  not  paying  taxes.  Residents  of                                                            
unorganized areas  would pay the proposed tax. The  intent is not to                                                            
"double  tax" residents  and  therefore the  exemption  is given  to                                                            
those who are levied a tax in an organized area.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:40:06 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHUCK HARLAMERT,  Juneau Section Chief, Tax Division,  Department of                                                            
Revenue, testified the  Department had some technical suggestions to                                                            
make the tax "administratable".                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:40:33 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green  asked if  those  suggestions  are included  in  the                                                            
committee substitute.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:40:38 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde affirmed.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:40:41 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Harlamert  stated that Section 2, on page 2, line  16 relates to                                                            
paying the  tax in the event an employer  did not withhold  the tax.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:41:34 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde furthered  that if the  tax was  not withheld  from a                                                            
paycheck, the individual must file the tax.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:41:58 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Harlamert continued  that the language contained on page 2, line                                                            
22 through page  3, line 21 simplify and clarify the  provisions for                                                            
withholding the tax.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:43:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green, Senator  Bunde and Mr.  Harlamert established  that                                                            
similar technical  changes are included  through line 21  of page 3.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:43:37 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Harlamert  next addressed the  refund provision on page  3, line                                                            
26. Refunds would be issued  the calendar year after the tax year to                                                            
avoid redundant claims  during the year. This corresponds with other                                                            
administrative procedures.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:44:00 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green asked  if the provision  relating  to the Office  of                                                            
Administrative Hearings was new to the committee substitute.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:44:24 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Harlamert  affirmed and explained this provision  is intended to                                                            
avoid  frivolous   appeals.  These  appeals  would   be  subject  to                                                            
adjudication  in  the  same  manner  as  other  State  administered                                                             
programs.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:44:56 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  asked for an explanation of the language  on page 7,                                                            
line 14.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Harlamert was unable to answer.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:45:17 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  informed that the legislative bill  drafters inserted                                                            
this language, although he was unsure the reason.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:45:31 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
LAUREN  WICKERSHAM,  Staff to  Senator  Bunde, elaborated  that  the                                                            
drafter stated  this language was necessary for "upkeep".  She would                                                            
obtain additional information.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:45:57 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  asked if the fiscal  note amount would be  adequate                                                            
to cover the provisions  inserted in the committee  substitute, such                                                            
as increased enforcement.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:46:44 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Harlamert replied  that  the  fiscal note  was  written to  the                                                            
original version  of the bill and  assumes the "best case  scenario"                                                            
for  administrative  purposes.  The  fiscal note  also  assumes  the                                                            
Division would  "take business decisions  for third party  data" and                                                            
"administer  tax from  our  desks". The  fiscal notes  would  change                                                            
according to the committee substitute.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:47:46 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken asked if  the Department would  issue a new  fiscal                                                            
note for the committee substitute.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:47:55 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green affirmed this would occur.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:47:58 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  relayed he has heard some support  of withholding a                                                            
portion  of permanent  fund dividend  payments  for those  residents                                                            
living  in  unorganized  boroughs  who  do  not  already  pay  taxes                                                            
supporting local schools.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:48:25 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  affirmed this suggestion has been discussed  with the                                                            
Permanent  Fund Dividend  Division.  The Division  is "hesitant"  to                                                            
support  this,   as  it  would  be  cumbersome  to  administer   and                                                            
expensive.  In  addition,  garnishment  for this  purpose  would  be                                                            
prioritized  with garnishment for  child support payments  and other                                                            
obligations.  The likelihood of garnering  revenue from this  source                                                            
for education would be limited.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:49:24 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  reminded the Committee  that organized communities                                                             
have  contributed  $177.9  million  to  schools.  Senator  Bunde  is                                                            
attempting  to "level  the  playing field  a bit".  Co-Chair  Wilken                                                            
supports this legislation and is a co-sponsor.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:50:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman  suggested  that  if this  legislation  is  a  fair                                                            
proposal it  could be made universal  to all areas of the  state and                                                            
subsequently, organized  communities could reduce property taxes for                                                            
their  residents. Contrary  to  statements  that this  tax would  be                                                            
fair,  there are  many inequities  because  while  residents in  one                                                            
school  district  pay  the  maximum  allowable   tax,  other  school                                                            
districts impose  a lesser tax. The  tax rate proposed in  this bill                                                            
is based  on the  average  amount paid  by those  who currently  are                                                            
taxed. The fairest system would be a statewide tax.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:51:16 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde  explained   current  State  statute   requires  that                                                            
organized communities  contribute "some local support"  for schools.                                                            
How that funding  is generated, whether through property  tax, sales                                                            
tax  or   other  sources,   is   the  decision   of  the   community                                                            
representatives.   The  legislature   sits   as  the  assembly   for                                                            
unorganized  boroughs. A statewide  head tax would be a progressive                                                             
income tax, which he did not support.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:52:32 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
LESTER   LUNCEFORD,    resident    of   Whittier,   testified    via                                                            
teleconference  from an offnet location  to applaud Senator  Bunde's                                                            
courage  in sponsoring  this bill.  Mr. Lunceford  heard  complaints                                                            
about  the  fairness  or unfairness  of  taxation  for  schools  and                                                            
surmised this proposal would be implement fairness.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:53:33 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DAN  BOCKHORST,  staff,  Local  Boundary  Commission,   Division  of                                                            
Community   Advocacy,   Department   of   Community   and   Economic                                                            
Development,  testified via teleconference  from an offnet  location                                                            
that the Commission unanimously supports this bill.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:54:03 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green asked whether  the Commission  has provided  written                                                            
documentation of that support.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:54:09 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bockhorst replied that  a letter of support was written on April                                                            
1 and submitted.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:54:22 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
KATHY WASSERMAN,  Alaska  Municipal League,  testified in Juneau  to                                                            
the need to address and  resolve this issue. However, she questioned                                                            
the use of the  individual average amount paid in  property taxes as                                                            
the method for establishing  this tax rate. The average property tax                                                            
assessed  for education purposes  in organized  communities  is four                                                            
mils  and equals  approximately  $426  per  person.  However,  lower                                                            
income  citizens  presumably  live  in  homes of  lesser  value  and                                                            
subsequently  pay less  than those  living in  higher valued  homes.                                                            
Additionally,  property values  in unorganized  boroughs tend  to be                                                            
significantly  lower than properties located in organized  boroughs.                                                            
She furthered  that schools  located in  Rural Education  Attendance                                                            
Areas (REAA)  serve as a microcosm  to the community. Funding  these                                                            
schools would  result in  less money available  for other  community                                                            
needs.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Wasserman  suggested  that community members  of both  organized                                                            
and unorganized  boroughs should  meet and  find a solution  to this                                                            
issue. More information is needed to ensure the tax is fair.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:57:28 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde  was  aware  of the  different  costs  of  living  in                                                            
organized  and  organized  boroughs  but pointed  out  the  combined                                                            
income of residents  of unorganized boroughs is $505.5  million. For                                                            
this  reason  he supported  a  head  tax  over a  property  tax.  He                                                            
reminded that Alaska had  a head tax in the past with those proceeds                                                            
going toward education expenses.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:58:16 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  directed that any additional questions  be submitted                                                            
to Senator Bunde.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green  withdrew  her  objection  to the  adoption  of  the                                                            
committee substitute and Version "L" was ADOPTED.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green ordered bill HELD in committee.                                                                                  

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